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| Home / College Guide / The Chapter 2 "Iceberg" [Random Extreme Spoilers] |
| Posted on Sunday, September 19 @ 00:00:04 PDT |
Here are some things Ive noticed:
Despite the overall message of your choices dont matter in Chapter 1, a surprising amount of choices carry over into Chapter 2.
- Noelle will gift Susie a lunchbox full of chalk if you told her Susie eats chalk in Chapter 1. (That scene alone made speedrunning Chapter 1 again worth it)
- The ORIGINAL Starwalker will make several cameos in Chapter 2 if you talked to him in Chapter 1.
- Your Thrasher machine makes a comeback. Twice.
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Kris is a puppet. But for whom? The player? In addition, Kris is still able to assert some level of control with his facial expressions and inflection without player input.
- Kris tears out his soul to temporarily free himself from time to time. In Chapter 1, he was so fed up with being controlled that he devoured an entire pie just to feel like he was in control again. In chapter 2, he slashes Toriels tires to ensure Susie will remain at the house while they open a dark fountain.
- Kris has been known to occasionally play the piano at the hospital. When you try to play though, you fail. He also appears outraged when Susie remarks on their skill. Kris knows how to play piano. YOU do not.
- Spamton G recognized that you were a puppet like himself.
When Susie asks if youre okay after the fight, two things can happen: you say a strained, unconvincing yes or you outright scream no.
- Kris feelings towards Noelle are completely unknown. You can lean towards friendship or towards a romance yet the player decides all the dialogue. Kris is just there for the ride.
- In Chapter 1, you can choose many dialogue options that imply you know of the events that happened in Undertale. You can talk to Undyne about Alphys. You can tell Sans its good to see you again even though Kris and Sans have somehow never met.
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Then theres Kris situation with Asriel.
- Kris is afraid college will have changed Asriel. Maybe hell be too grown up to play anymore.
- If you give the gift to Noelle, shell remark something along the lines of havent given her a gift since we were kids. Wait, does this mean you want things to be like they were? This is Kris fear and desire- he wants things to remain the same... to not grow up, to not change, to not drift apart from his childhood friends.
- Kris has googled college break when.
- Kris refuses to peek inside Asriels digitized room.
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Gaster scammed Spamton G.
- What is implied to be Gaster wants to open dark fountains to destroy the world.
- What is implied to be Gaster helped Spamton G to become a big shot. Gaster later abandoned Spamton G to instead help Queen for unknown reasons (Gaster and Spamton seemed to have a falling out, maybe because Queen was willing to open a dark fountain and Spamton wasnt?)
- Spamton G only picks up the repeatedly-ringing phone when he is NEO. The sound of a ringing phone is also present in his theme song. It seems that he and Gaster only communicated through the phone before Spamton cut all contact with him. He is forever tormented by the ringing.
- What is the [missing hyperlink] that Spamton G tries to tell us repeatedly about? It appears to be something that Gaster promised him?
- What is to be implied to be Gaster gifts you random eggs in each chapter. In addition, Spamton G has some remarks about eggs and his NEO phone shoots out eggs. Spamton G is even attacked by his own phone at one point.
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Noelle Stuff
- Noelles mom might be the mayor (Alphys confirms the mayor is your neighbor)... and might also be a meh mother. Noelle is completely taken aback when Queen acts like a loving mother towards her at times.
- Kris has a history of pranking Noelle. This iwas the time before he became a puppet.
- The 25th of last month if very important to Noelle for some reason (its Christmas).
- Noelle likes being scared. Like... to the point of being turned on by it (Im being serious, there were several times I thought this). Deers and adrenaline, eh? I guess that is the crux of why she crushes on Susie.
- Noelles father is probably not going to recover.
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Some misc things
- Why are Asgore and Toriel divorced if the crimes Asgore committed in Undertale never happened? Possibly related, Asgore used to be on the police force but was laid off for unknown reasons (Kris might know why as he is reluctant to continue reading the newspaper clipping in the police station).
- Asgore is not okay. He keeps a smile on but it is clear he hates how things turned out with his life. Also, why DOES he keep seven flowers in glass cases? And he... talks to them too.
- Onion-san hears a snippet of a song deep in the ocean. They claim to have heard it before- the entire song- long ago. They leave to go find it.
- Shyren is supposed to be dead, yet a look-alike can be seen at the hospital. You cannot examine Shyrens gravestone in Chapter 2 (as Susie will interrupt you), only in Chapter 1 can you read it.
- Gersons hammer might become important later.
His daughter doesnt seem happy that it is buried with him.
- You need the Throne of the Gods to bypass the Supreme Table. (This is not possible to do).
- Ralsei somehow knows what the interior of your house looks like.
- Mettaton NEOs remains are in the dark world while Mettaton is actually alive and well at Napstablooks house. Spamton G would also pray to the remains.
- Chaos King and Queen act like theyre married but they are not. Queen claims to be Lancers mom but Chaos King disagrees?
- The little white dog runs you over!
- D E C E M B E R
- WHAT is the Heavens Gate? Why is it mentioned but never elaborated on in Ralseis prophecy? Why does Spamton G talk about heaven?
- Terry, not Jerry.
- Bananas?
- BIG SHOT BIG SHOT BIG SHOT BIG SHOT BIG SHOT Last edited by Tystefy ; 57 minutes ago
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